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Standoff Over Baby in Thailand Pits Same-Sex Pair Against Mother

Sunday, August 16, 2015
BANGKOK: A six-month-old baby girl is trapped in the Thai capital in a bitter custody wrangle between her Thai surrogate mother and her biological father.

Baby Carmen's future is uncertain as laws come into force in Thailand banning commercial surrogacy, with violations punishable by up to 10 years in prison.

More than 150 Australian couples with surrogacy arrangements in Thailand have taken their babies home after Thai authorities shut down the country's booming surrogacy industry following the Baby Gammy scandal 12 months ago.

But a Thai woman who was paid to be a surrogate mother for an American man and his same-sex Spanish partner is refusing to allow them to take the baby out of Thailand.

"Our lives have been turned upside down," American Bud Lake from New Jersey and Manuel Santos from Valencia in Spain say in an appeal for public support on the campaigning website change.org.

"Our jobs are in danger, our family is now divided, false allegations and criminal charges have been brought against us," they wrote.

"What was supposed to be the happiest four weeks of our lives, bonding with our little girl - our daughter and our son's new little sister - has turned into an absolute nightmare."

Mr Lake and Mr Santos agreed to pay the surrogate mother in March last year at a time when lax regulations made Thailand the go-to country for surrogacy in Asia.

Mr Lake is the biological father and the egg came from a donor.

The couple say there was no problem during the pregnancy and the surrogate signed a consent form that allowed Mr Lake to take the baby from a hospital in Bangkok and to put his name on her birth certificate.

But the surrogate mother failed to show up at a subsequent meeting at the US embassy to sign papers that would have allowed the couple to take the baby through Thai immigration.

"We've done everything by the book, we had an agreement, we commissioned a surrogacy and she agreed to be a surrogate," Mr Lake said.

"She received the monthly payments. She's the one who changed her mind."

The surrogate mother told the US's National Public Radio she is refusing to allow the baby to leave Thailand because Mr Lake and Mr Santos are "not natural parents in Thai society".

"They are same-sex, not like male and female who can take care of babies," she said.

"Second thing is, when I tried to contact them to visit the baby, they didn't want to talk to me," she said.

"And the third thing is, I was begging them to see the baby but they didn't allow me to see her - they treated me very badly and said I have no right to see the baby."

Mr Lake and Mr Santos deny the claims and say they were legally married in the US and Spain.

They are caring for Baby Carmen in a rented apartment in Bangkok with their two-year-old son Alvaro, who was born to a surrogate mother in India.

A court battle is looming over custody of the baby. The surrogate mother has also accused Mr Lake of abducting Carmen.

A Thai law that took effect on July 30 stipulates that only Thai heterosexual couples married for more than three years can hire surrogates, a provision that excludes gay couples.

Same-sex marriage is not recognised in Thailand, though there have been attempts to change this.

Under earlier laws, a Thai surrogate mother had full rights over a newborn, even if she had no genetic ties with the child.

Thailand's military government implemented the latest law after Fairfax Media's revelations over the Baby Gammy case, where an Australian couple took a baby home but left her then critically unwell Down syndrome twin with her Thai surrogate mother.

Authorities in Thailand late last year granted a temporary provision to the law that allowed hundreds of foreign parents, many of them same-sex Australians, who had surrogacy contracts before the law came into force to petition a court for full parental rights, opening the way for them to take their babies home.

Mr Lake and Mr Santos have begun a #BringCarmenHome social media campaign and say they are not leaving Thailand without the baby, despite the criminal abduction accusation against Mr Lake that could see him jailed if convicted in a Thai court.

"We are good people who have gotten mixed up in a big problem," they wrote on change.org. "We only want to return home to our families with our daughter."

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The girl is his biological daughter. She carried the kid. What a mess this surrogacy thing is.

A little lame the excuse by the woman, as if she did not know, that it is a same sex couple before she did the contract. I am sure the girl will have a great upbringing with this two male parents. But the surrogate mother should be allowed to be a part in her life, she gave birth to the baby, even if she thought, she get over it more easy, now she know she doesn't. So I can understand her motivation in trying to keep her (a lot) even with her funny arguments.

Posted by Lena on August 16, 2015 18:18

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The mother had no qualms about the men being gay when she accepted the money and monthly payments.

She gave birth to the baby but it's not even biologically hers.

She obviously realized there's a good chance to cash in even more and decided to put the squeeze on the biological father.

Posted by Herbert on August 16, 2015 18:40

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Laws can have retrospectively effect, but only in those rare case when it is proportional and it serves to protect public or individual interests,that otherwise would be harmed.

The effect of these new laws normally shouldbe not applied to the cases when persons already started realization of their rights,that were within previous version of laws.

Namely,as a surrogate mother has been fertilized even before adoption of such,and even before the draft law appeared,there is no question that these individuals could rely that their realzation of rights , that is not momentarily,but takes some time from commencement to the end - 9 months ,would not be hampered in a such disproportional way.

The surrogate mother would never be fertilized if there would be no clue nsent from a bio farther, and, by apparently knowingly accepting the status of a surrogate mother,a question of a custody of child hssd been clearly resolved even in an implied form - it will goes to bio farther.

I agree with Lena that in this situation a compromise probably will have to be worked out,like a surrogate mother getting visitation and other rights like any bio parent - but then it can come onky with obligations to participate ,also financially,in raising the child.

I suspect that woman has designed logic that she probably will be compensated in such way of another, either for removing objection against soled custody by those two men,or for expenses she would incur in raising a kid,like travel expenses..,or both.

Posted by Sue on August 16, 2015 20:08

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A very difficult and emotional issue.
PS
Could someone please provide Sue with a Spell Checker and/or me with a Sue Translator. I do not understand the sense of most of what he posts which is very unfortunate if he wants to be taken seriously.

Posted by Alan on August 16, 2015 22:23

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Alan,

thanks for the suggestion and sorry for inconvenience.

However you know yourself well that data transfer speeds of all three mobile operators in a coastal Western PhangNga vary,and in some relatively remote spots could be punishingly slow.
As a result if you compile on your mobile device a text before posting usin such a tool that relies on an online spellchecking dictionary, then spell checking function sometimes can work not at a pace you type.

That slow connection is in particular frustrating when you try to share in a real time with a people in Phuket a gastroporn of food that barely exists in Phuket, like Poo Ma Che Nam Pla (Raw Blue Crab Marinated in Fish Sauce), or videos of beach vistas that are usually described as "virgin deserted beach with a creaky white sand and turquoise waters" as they have been last seen on Phuket appr.40 years ago.

Posted by Sue on August 17, 2015 12:25


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