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Elderly expats who fall for Phuket sometimes strain the health system

Phuket Expats Stress Hospitals; Phuket Reef Abuse; Tuk-Tuk Scams; Hell on Phi Phi; Phuket Events

Thursday, January 20, 2011
UPDATE

nationmultimedia.com The National Park, Wildlife and Plant Conservation Department will not close all the marine national parks along the Andaman Sea. "Closing marine national parks will not help the coral reefs recover from bleaching," Director General Sunant Arunnopparat said. During a trip to survey two Phuket islands, foreign tourists were seen breaking and destroying live coral.

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bangkokpost.com has followed up a Phuketwan exclusive, concluding that state hospitals on Phuket are shouldering a heavy burden for treating elderly foreigners who cannot afford to pay their medical bills. Many retired foreigners who came to Thailand with the hope of settling down on Phuket are now struggling after spending their pensions wastefully and marrying Thai women, some of whom left them after their money ran out, the newspaper says.
Relatives back home refuse to pay for their treatment on being contacted by embassies, Vachira Phuket Hospital's public relations centre told the Post. A source urged stricter screening of visa applications and said foreign residents must be required to have health insurance.

monstersandcritics.com Although immigration regulations require foreign retirees to have proof of fixed monthly incomes, many quickly exhaust their savings on Phuket, which is well-known for its night entertainment scene and widespread prostitution. ''In a lot of cases, these patients require long-term treatment for chronic illnesses such as alcoholism,'' said the source at Vachira Phuket Hospital, which treated 377 foreign patients, most of them British, in 2010.

livemint.com Budget carrier IndiGo, which recently placed a record order for planes, will start international operations in August, pitting it against Emirates, Singapore Airlines and AirAsia. The aviation ministry has approved IndiGo's proposal to fly to four countries. On January 12, the airline announced a record order for 180 Airbus SAS A320 jets worth $15 billion.

nationmultimedia.com The five private cellular operators will start expanding the mobile number portability service currently only available in Greater Bangkok to Phuket and four other provinces on February 1.

nzherald.co.nz The Tuk-Tuk Scam is an oldie designed to trick tourists into thinking they are being taken on a worthy tourist route when actually they're driven to gem markets and tailors and pressured into making expensive purchases. Not as dire, perhaps, as being ordered at gunpoint to pay thousands of dollars for a damaged jetski - a less popular scam in Thailand, but a con all the same.

salon.com The karsts are so fantastically tall, verdant and sheer, as to be almost unbelievable. The bad part is the people. Hundreds of thousands of tourists - let me correct myself, hundreds of thousands of young and obnoxious tourists - come to this watery corner of Asia each year to behold the Phi Phi Islands.
When finally we hit the pier at Phuket, I am ready to kiss the ground. Phuket, by the way, is perhaps the only place on earth more disappointing than Phi Phi, with 10 times the tourists and a tenth of the natural beauty.

afp US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton pledged to work for democracy in Burma with opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi when she telephoned her on Wednesday, Clinton's spokesman said.

smh.com.au A survey conducted by the World Travel Market late last year found the economic downturn will continue to have an impact on the global travel industry for at least five years. Adventurous destinations feature strongly in predictions for 2011 hot spots.

indcatholicnews.com Christian Solidarity Worldwide welcomes the release today of a major new report highlighting human rights violations against the Chin people in Burma, just over a week before Burma is due for a Universal Periodic Review of its human rights record at the United Nations. The report, 'Life under the Junta: Evidence of Crimes against Humanity in Burma's Chin State,' published by Physicians for Human Rights, winners of the 1997 Nobel Peace Prize, provides further evidence of crimes against humanity perpetrated by Burma's military regime.

monstersandcritics.com Thai authorities were mulling closing some marine parks to tourists after bleaching killed more than 50 percent of the country's coral reefs last year, officials said. The government was expected to decide this month whether to close certain dive sites to tourists in a desperate effort to rejuvenate the country's coral reefs, said Nipon Pongsuwan, head of the Phuket office of the Department of Marine and Coastal Resources.

bangkokpost.com Bay Cliff Development Co sales director Shane Suwannaphan said the company opened a sales office in Bangkok to appeal to Thai investors. "Phuket has experienced a fast recovery from both the 2004 tsunami and the [2008] airport closure. While Khao Lak has not yet recovered, Phuket had a comeback within 18 months after the tsunami." It also operates a 20-room serviced apartment called Sleep with Me.

chinahospitalitynews.com Budget airline Jetstar has announced that it will commence operating a direct services between Singapore and Hangzhou from March 22, becoming the first carrier to offer a direct service between the two destinations.

frenchtribune.com A new study has shown that in Singapore, one out of every 10 children is addicted to video games. For the study some 3000 students were observed and it was found that excessive gaming has led to some additional mental woes coming up in children.

todayonline.com The Malaysian government will launch a project to identify students with depression following a spike in the number of youths with mental health issues.

thestandard.com.hk Hutchison Whampoa's plan to spin off its ports business for separate listing have circulated for awhile. Nevertheless, the company's choice of Singapore as the berthing place is still astonishing. The loser is obviously Hong Kong, Hutchison's home port.

guardian.co.uk Thailand, as a result of its own successful anti-poverty measures, actually imports regional poverty from bordering Laos, Burma and Cambodia. It is estimated that there are between 1.8 million and 3 million documented and undocumented workers and their families in the country. Therefore it is necessary to measure poverty in wider terms than just national borders.

todayonline.com The man at the centre of Indonesia's most closely-watched corruption scandal was sentenced to seven years in jail in a case analysts say tests the country's commitment to tackling graft. Gayus Tambunan, who frequently ''escaped'' from jail, both entertained and scandalised a nation. The web of involvement allegedly included everyone from senior police and immigration officials to chief wardens and judges.

Phuket Coming Events


January 21 FC Phuket benefit matches for heart-attack player Camara Ahmed are scheduled for 4pm Friday when Phuket, Phang Nga, Surat Thani and Krabi will play, with tickets at 20 baht and 50 baht. On January 23, the winners of the round-robin play off.

January 22 QSI International fun run day at Bang Wad Dam, Kathu
January 23 Great Phuket Rubber Duck Race Day, Laguna Phuket
January 24 Villa Royale hosts the Baan Kata Arts Festival Concert
January 25 Muangtong United versus FC Phuket, 6pm. Tickets 50 baht, 100 baht
February 3 Chinese New Year Festival, Phuket
February 8-10Old Phuket Town Festival, food and walking street fest
February 9-13 The Bay Regatta - Phuket, Phang Nga, Krabi
February 23-26 Phuket Gay Pride Festival, Patong
February 25-26 Phuket International Blues and Rock Festival 2011
February 26-27 Phuket Spicy Soccer 7s, Phuket International Academy
March 14-19 ADFEST 2011 at Movenpick Resort, Phuket
March 27 Earth Hour commemoration on Phuket
April 13-15 Songkran Festival
May New PPAO Hospital to open, Phuket City

Phuket Coming Events 2014

Fourth Asia Beach Games, Phuket
Phuket Retirees 'Must Have Health Insurance'
Latest Changes are being proposed that would require expat retirees on Phuket to have compulsory health insurance and to have 800,000 baht in the bank at all times.
Phuket Retirees 'Must Have Health Insurance'

Phuket Vendors Revolt Over 'Police Graft': Corruption Protests to Phuket Leaders
Breaking News Shopkeepers staged a revolt today in protest at demands for 1000 baht bribes that were to be the first regular corruption payments made at a new market in Patong.
Phuket Vendors Revolt Over 'Police Graft': Corruption Protests to Phuket Leaders

Patong's One-Way Wins Thumbs Up from Police
Latest Congestion caused by the first set of changes to Patong's one way street system was resolved within hours when police quickly reversed a one way decision.
Patong's One-Way Wins Thumbs Up from Police

Phuket GM Flies Amid Airport ID VIP Riddle
EXCLUSIVE Phuket Airport has a new General Manager as concern deepens about a mysterious couple who attempted to leave Thailand last year with no passports on a VIP flight to the Middle East.
Phuket GM Flies Amid Airport ID VIP Riddle

Alcohol Law 'Would Close All Phuket City Venues'
Latest A proposed law designed to highlight and reduce the consequences of excessive alcohol would mean virtually all of Phuket City's bars and entertainment venues would close.
Alcohol Law 'Would Close All Phuket City Venues'

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[quote]Many retired foreigners who came to Thailand with the hope of settling down on Phuket are now struggling after spending their pensions wastefully and marrying Thai women, some of whom left them after their money ran out, the newspaper says.[/quote]

Utter garbage by the anti-farang scribblers at the Post.

Posted by Mike Boyd on January 20, 2011 12:24

Editor Comment:

Why is it anti-farang? The Post uses the word ''foreigners,'' which embraces Japanese, Koreans and others as well as Westerners. The authors appear to know what they are writing about. Do you?

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I don't see any Japanese or Korean faces in the photo that accompanies this piece. Nearly all are white skinned "westerners", i.e. European, American or Australian.

Give us details - how many times has Vachira been out of pocket because of a sick farang who can't pay his bills? Once? Twice?

Counter that with the number of dead farangs who leave a fortune behind or have all their belongings stripped out of their house before their body has reached room temperature.

Thailand gets more out of farangs - dead or alive - than it gives.

Posted by Mike Boyd on January 20, 2011 17:43

Editor Comment:

That's a matter of opinion, Mike. If you read the original article or the Bangkok Post piece, you may be less inclined to your indignant viewpoint. One of the commenters, as you will see, eventually apologised once he realised that the truth is that quite a few expats use Phuket hospital facilities without paying. There is no point in kidding yourself. Your argument is so lame it needs treatment. I hope you have health insurance.

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Ok, so I have now read the BP article and it gives the details that I was after.

1. "These patients are mostly European men," the source said.

- so there goes your Japanese and Korean argument.

2. 2010: 1.3 million baht, 17 foreigners.
2009: 1.2 million baht, 22 foreigners
2008: 800,000 baht, unspecified no.

1.3 million is chicken feed. I spend more than that every year. How much does Vachira spend on Thais and how many?

Compare that to how much the UK spends on foreigners and how many.

So basically this is typical anti-farang ranting by the BP and shows again that what people like the author want is tourists to come here, spend their money and go.

Posted by Mike Boyd on January 20, 2011 18:37

Editor Comment:

Herbert commented at the end of the original article that Phuketwan published: I have to apologise for my former post, Editor! I have learned that there are indeed Expats who are leaving the Hospitals on the Island without paying!

And there are quite a few of them, Mike. What happens in Britain has no relevance. What you spend a year has no relevance. Whether tourists come here has no relevance.

It's a rip-off being carried out by expats, on a sizeable scale. Even you can't deny it, without silly hyperbole.

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Its is a serious problem and much better than America where you would be denied access to treatment without insurance. Vachira is a good hospital that supports the community. It's the only one that stocks anti venom for snake bites. (Dont head to the other two if you get bitten) The hospital in Thalang stocks it as well, I believe supplied by Vachira

I do think the retirement visa should come with a Insurance clause. its not that expensive. Thailand is one of the cheapest countries for health insurance.

Though maybe Karma would sort it out, if they sorted out the insurance on the Jet Skis and other scams.

Posted by Michael on January 21, 2011 06:53

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Editor: "It's a rip-off being carried out by expats, on a sizeable scale. Even you can't deny it, without silly hyperbole."

I dispute "sizeable scale".

17 foreigners cost them 1.3 million baht (= 26,000 GBP) over a whole year.

A trifling amount.

How much profit does Vachira make a year from foreigners? Judging by the cost of their pills or a 5 minute chat to a doctor, quite a lot.

Posted by Mike Boyd on January 21, 2011 14:22

Editor Comment:

Mike, no amount is trifling to a public hospital in Thailand. Your perverse economics also seem out of kilter with the daily struggles of the poor and the sick. No amount is trifling to them, either. And plainly, you've never seen Vachira overflowing, with hospital beds in the elevator foyers. What you seem to need desperately is a values transplant. Without it, your inner spirit will wither terminally. While you're at it, get an implant so you can tell right from wrong.

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My friend was treated in Vachira (2009) major hip/pelvic surgery, they would not do it without payment up front (like the private hospitals, but Vachira had the devices needed at Vachira, so what am I missing here?

Not clear in the report: are expats getting treated as out-patient and cannot pay or as in-patient and cannot pay? What would be the general breakdown on the treatments?

Posted by Lee on January 21, 2011 16:04

Editor Comment:

Probably both.


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