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Thanks for the update, was waiting for it. Still strange to me that there are only 2 cases, if pesticides involved...
Posted by Resident on August 31, 2012 11:34
If it was insecticides maybe it was something like the Thais use against the termites. Whenever the pest control is coming to spray against the termites, I have headake and belly pain for at least two days, even I open all windows and doors. It will be much worse if they spray against termites and the tourists close everything and just use the aircon.
Posted by happychris on August 31, 2012 12:01
I still think these deaths may be linked to boot leg booze, name brand spirit bottles refilled with backyard made hootch.
Posted by Richard on August 31, 2012 16:03
Don't mind about their deaths: Phuket, Chiang Mai, Phe Phe and Thailand are safe, until you misteriously and burnt die!?!
Posted by Coralie on August 31, 2012 19:48
Canadian government just posted a travel warning about drinks containing DEET and the news is reporting DEET poisoning... http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2012/08/31/montreal-sisters-die-thailand-insecticide.html
Posted by Harvey on September 1, 2012 06:17
Canadian news says a local Thai concoction of cough syrup,DEET, coke + local ingredients to get high.Did someone mix super strong for them or maybe someone just spike their drinks with DEET insect repellant they see handy - just for a laugh. Too bad their companions get away thanks to lax police and immigration.
Posted by Anonymous on September 1, 2012 08:48
That's anonymous guesswork, which is the most useless kind. No conclusion can be drawn at this stage about how the insecticide reached the sisters' bodies.
There's a report on the Canadian news (CBC) that says it was a DEET overdose from DEET mixed in Coke cocktails.
Posted by Anonymous on September 1, 2012 09:45
Yes, we reported their claim today. The ''cocktails'' part is likely to be guesswork, and alarming guesswork at that. There are various ways chemicals can enter the body. Drinking it is just one of them.
Is it strange that ONLY females are dying ?
Posted by Danny on September 2, 2012 03:51
Since the cough syrup with pseudo ephedrine is only available at hospitals, this mixture may need some more spice. Maybe the girls are the victim of a new mixture, for good reason not tested by the brewer? Btw. Ed. Except in PW, where else is it only a expectation, that the girls got deed drinks?
Posted by ??? on September 2, 2012 08:52
No idea what you mean by that question, ???
This is why you should NEVER buy (or accept for free) ANY alcoholic drinks in Thailand that don't come in a sealed bottle that you can see opened in front of your eyes. And never leave an opened drink unattended even for 1 second or someone will put something in it.
Posted by Dr Michael on September 3, 2012 20:32
@ Dr Michael
Posted by Andrew on September 3, 2012 22:26
As a physician with a personal interest in toxicology, who has traveled throughout Thailand (including staying in a guesthouse in Chiang Mai), and who has worked in a hospital in the developing world, I am a little skeptical of the leading theory that an organophosphate-based insecticide is a definitive answer to what has happened (though I would definitely still consider it a possibility.) The recent onset of these deaths, the geographic clustering of cases (clusters have also occurred in Chiang Mai and Vietnam), the relative homogeneity of victims (predominantly young, attractive, female tourists), and the unusually high case fatality rate (environmental toxins normally sicken many more people than they kill), all suggests something more sinister. I also mean no disrespect to the hardworking medical personnel and coroners in Thailand, but I seriously doubt that these facilities have the resources to diagnose (or rule out) the enormous variety of possible etiologic poisons. Diagnosing poisoning in an unsuspecting victim can be a challenge even for top tertiary care academic institutions here in the States. Claiming that a diagnosis of insecticide poisoning can be made based on specific chemical levels in the body after death has occurred is simply not based in reality.
Posted by Eric on September 17, 2012 03:18
Reasonable deductions Eric however DEET is not an organophosphate nor does it possess any cholinergic effects in toxicity.
Posted by Nick on September 17, 2012 07:42
Why don't they check for Phostoxin poisoning,( Aluminium phosphide )?
Posted by Dun on September 17, 2012 12:04
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