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Doomsayers Defeated, PW Editor Sits Back

Doomsayers Defeated, PW Editor Sits Back

Sunday, August 24, 2014
PHUKET: Phuketwan is changing its policy on comments and the Editor won't be responding so often to readers in future.

When the first reader responses to articles were received back in 2008, not many news sites in Thailand allowed readers to add comments. Phuketwan was among the first, and certainly the first on Phuket.

Based on the bigotry and vitriol that was easy to find then on expat chat forums, the Editor opted to challenge some comments rather than let them pass as if they were thoughtful and fair.

He was determined especially to expose the Thailand ''haters'' by offering an alternative that wasn't built on mindless bias and poor judgement.

That was the era of the Doomsayers, the sorrowful expats who never could find anything positive to say, and who could not be persuaded to believe what the Editor knew - that their views were narrow and often wrong, and that change was inevitable.

Almost 60,000 comments and many thousands of retorts later, the Editor reckons he has achieved his aims.

The Doomsayers have disappeared and comments these days on Phuketwan and on sites elsewhere are better informed and sometimes even add value.

In 2014, even the expat chat forums in Thailand are mostly more civil and less inclined to tolerate the ''haters'' who waste time and energy pursuing onanistic agendas.

Phuketwan has even attracted additional readers because there were responses on this site. It's a rare thing anywhere to have an Editor respond so directly to readers.

Some egos have possibly been bruised in the process, although the Editor insists it's a mistake to confuse the online comments world with the real one.

However, the Editor regrets any harm done to the feelings of real readers.

He also insists that he is not a sociopath or a pedophile, he does not spend his nights in Patong, he seldom loses his temper, and his uncles are not named Thaksin or Suthep. The size of his testicles is, he believes, not especially relevant.

Phuketwan continues to welcome readers who wish to comment by adding value in essential information or their own experiences, and thanks all those who have already done so over the past six years.

If someone out there has missed the fun, here's one early example where the comments stream became almost as readable as the original Phuketwan article that went where others did not dare:


Phuket's Mass Circumcision: Photo Special

IT IS THE DAY the foreskins have to go. About 30 young boys are set for this once-in-a-lifetime occasion, under the knife.
http://phuketwan.com/entertainment/phukets-mass-circumcision-photo-special-12341/

Anonymous, please, please forgive us.

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You do realise though, the government officials, eg Police, Governor, Orbortor actually achieved very little, if not, making it worse in some cases.
Only a Coup made Phuket better and that is because no one wants to challenge the Army.

Posted by Tbs on August 24, 2014 15:04

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although the Editor insists it's a mistake to confuse the online comments world with the real one

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exactly

Mai Pen Rai is what I can say here
:))

Posted by Sue on August 24, 2014 17:41

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Personally I prefer the comments from the Editor, as it added a different flavour, which IMHO gave it an close and personal touch, with it's readers unlike other websites which are rather faceless.

It terms of comments... opinions may not be necessarily shared by the Editor, but then again having an opinion is surely better than none.

Whilst I accept that Phuketwan may not entirely agree with some of the posts, it never-the-less invokes a response, which of course is the whole point of running such a website is it not ?

Anyway, I hope you continue the good work, without which, would make the internet uneventful.

Posted by reader on August 24, 2014 20:55

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The doomsayers are not gone per se, they just slunk back into the woodwork, as the Editor and perhaps a few readers consistently challenge them, and they tire of being challenged ( and being wrong). Many of the supremely jaded expats still believe in the cachet of doomsaying; many of them also went over ( or back ) to Thaivisa.com/general forum, where notable expat doomsayers still have an appreciable audience and many "friends" of their ilk, as they commiserate in their misery and alleged suffering at the hands of the "Kingdom" and its peoples.

Posted by farang888 on August 24, 2014 21:56

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I hope that Ed or someone will continue to moderate inappropriate replies as previously. I also hope that the Editor's belief that contributions are now mature enough is not misplaced and taken advantage of by immature contributors.

Posted by Alan on August 24, 2014 22:38

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begone doom sayers
sooth sayers please

Posted by ayjay on August 25, 2014 05:50

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Well, at least the editor got his English grammar right. The legions of opinionated and verbose 'Asian Old Hands' out there who cannot tell the usage of 'it's' from 'its' and other similar simple grammar rules could learn from Alan. That is if they are bothered to. Onanistic indeed.

Posted by Sam Wilko on August 25, 2014 10:51

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Very funny. Made my morning. Whilst your "spirited response(s)" ... LOL ! ... may have caused some offence, I agree they were vital in disparaging the "bigotry and vitriol" of many of Thailand's expats and led to a much higher level of commenting. Please do keep us up to date about the size of your testicles though !

Posted by James on August 25, 2014 11:03

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I've always enjoyed the responses from the editor on other comments. Rather amusing to see how the discussions erupted in rather, at times, personal clashes. Dear editor, please do keep responding when idiocy tries to prevail

Posted by Richard on August 25, 2014 14:25

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damn ...i am going to miss the insults ... talk about a dummy spit ....

Posted by chris on August 25, 2014 15:50

Editor Comment:

Pick up your dummy and press on, chris.

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Well done Ed..you have done your "bit" for sure. However not sure that martyrdom ie your death or imprisonment will be of any value add to displaced persons or Phuket's future.
Better,methinks, that you escape the current pathetic witch hunt and get your old butt back to Australian territory by "any means".. from whence you can continue your good work. Dear old TS did it without his Thai passport and he is still spouting his rhetoric unhindered?

Posted by david on August 26, 2014 12:51

Editor Comment:

TS could be a runner, david. I don't see that as an option. Phuket is home.

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@ Ed.
Being defeated is often a temporary condition. Giving up is what makes it permanent.
~ Marilyn vos Savant

Posted by Graham on August 26, 2014 16:39

Editor Comment:

Defiant is what we prefer, Graham. The Doomsayers? They're history.

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To be perfectly honest, in the discussion about lounge chairs and umbrellas, i found many of the editor's remarks arrogant and deeply offensive. I will not miss him.

Posted by Ken Freed on August 26, 2014 20:05

Editor Comment:

You are extremely unfortunate, Ken, I am not going anywhere.

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What happened to all our colourful avatars?
Emaiul addresses coming out wrong. Mr Ed please dont go away. This morning I have managed to throw my breakfast on the floor, spilt my orange juice over the cat, broken my favourite chair and now cut my hand on the broken plate of my breakfast. Today I have had the best laugh in comments submitted by Robin and Duncan B in ages. The sue character is just non amusing and I fear a droll. So you can comment toooooo please?

Posted by Graham on August 27, 2014 09:17

Editor Comment:

We need drolls.

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Er ED. Looks like you either have a spell checker on your comments section, or a hacker or a bad system. Look at my comments coning out with wrong wording or wrong spelling. I have taken a picture of my comment, so if it comes out wrong, I can show you what I sent.

Posted by Graham on August 27, 2014 10:47

Editor Comment:

We usually reproduce what readers type, Graham, although some obscure characters do come through as question marks. Did you type ''coning'' or ''coming''?


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