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Aaron Quinn and Paul Wild under arrest by Immigration officers

Phuket Immigration Officers Arrest British Overstayers: Two Face Expulsion

Thursday, September 19, 2013
PHUKET Two British men were arrested by Phuket Immigration police today as overstayers and the pair are likely to face a court fine and expulsion.

The men, Aaron Liam Quinn, 37, and Paul Wild, 49, were arrested as they talked in the street outside a house in the Cherng Talay district about 1.30pm.

Mr Quinn was able to produce a passport, Immigration officers said later. ''The passport showed he entered Thailand on October 12, 2012 through Phuket International Airport,'' Colonel Sanchai Chokkayaikit said.

''He was due to leave before January 9.''

Mr Wild could not produce his passport. He was taken to Phuket Immigration Headquarters in Phuket City where a check of computer data was made.

The records showed Mr Wild entered Thailand from Burma via Ranong on February 27, 2011 and was due to leave before May 27, 2011.

There was no explanation provided as to what the men had been doing on Phuket. The arrests are the latest in a continuing crackdown.

In most cases, the overstayers are fined up to 2000 baht by Phuket Provincial Court and then obligated to pay 500 baht a day for each day over the visa limit.

A maximum of 20,000 baht is usually applied.

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Good riddance, I despise all these low life overstayers. A Ban on returning to Thailand for 10 years or so would be appropriate too.

Posted by christian on September 19, 2013 18:19

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Value if you can just come straight back in to Thailand, why am I up to date with my Visa!

Posted by Fiesty Farang on September 19, 2013 19:07

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We all know the rules......

Posted by robert on September 20, 2013 08:23

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On a side note please, are the Thai Banks allowed to take "TAX" off your bank account that holds your 800,000.00 Baht for your retirement visa? I never heard of any bank taking tax off an account, especially since these funds have to be dormant for 3 months prior to applying for visa renewal? Any one have any answers please?

Posted by DuncanB on September 20, 2013 09:24

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Not having to make all of those visa van runs to Ranong is worth 20,000 baht.

Posted by Zig on September 20, 2013 09:38

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@DuncanB
Try a non-state bank like Kasikorn or Bank of Ayudhya - they pay interest and don't deduct tax unless you're a registered tax payer.

Posted by Pete on September 20, 2013 09:48

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Thai banks are by law required to subtract 15% tax on interests accrued on a foreigners account.

Posted by Sailor on September 20, 2013 09:58

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For Sailor. I'm not so sure your information is correct. If you have an investment fund (kong thun) at one of the Thai banks some tax is payable, well, sometimes (note and warning: Immigration does not accept money in 'kong thun' if you're seeking to renew your retirement visa i.e. the 800,000 baht for 3 months prior to renewal, however they do accept interest bearing term deposits 'banchi ngoen fark'). In my experience with these deposits (banchi ngoen fark) there is no interest payable. On an account at the Thai Commercial Bank (Thai Phanit) I didn't pay a single satang on the interest. With the banks you have to do a fair bit of research and shopping around as to what's on offer. Yesterday an investment fund I had with Kasikorn Bank matured - interest paid in full, no tax (I should add that at another time I did have to pay some tax). Prior to going into the bank I checked the interest rates on term deposits at the Thai Commercial Bank (2.95% for 10 months). I then went in Kasikorn Bank and asked them what they were offering. The fellow there told me 2.80% for 10 months. I then asked him how much it would cost to withdraw my money as I had seen a slightly better rate at the Thai Commercial Bank. Almost immediately he 're-checked' his paperwork and then told me - I could have 3% for 10 months. So I left my money there. Transparency is not a strong point in the Thai banking system. Each bank branch often seems to operate as an individual franchise.

Posted by Kaen Phet on September 20, 2013 11:45

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I am sure that once they get home, arrange a new passport and funds to return we will see these smug faces back on our shores. The kind of folks who make their disregard everyone elses problem. I hope they get a good long stay in Chalong's Immigration cells just for the hell of it, even though a burden to the thai taxpayer - all 1250 of them

Posted by Toolbox on September 20, 2013 12:28

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Tax & interest seems to be a variable even within any particular bank group. I have a savings account with Ayudha that I am building towards 800,000 baht for retirement & I do pay tax on interest paid.

Maybe I needed this wake up call to shop around. I was told when I opened that account that you always pay tax on interest.

Whether it is foreigners only who pay this tax, or whether it is applicable to all is another matter.

Posted by Logic on September 20, 2013 13:38

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@kaen phet, I have accounts at SCB , Bangkok Bank and Krung Thai and they all withdraw tax automatically from accrued interest as they do from all non residents according to Thai law. Don't think that there is a special law for you unless of course you are a resident.

Posted by Sailor on September 20, 2013 14:04

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Sailor. I'm telling you the truth. As I indicated I have had tax deducted from some interest bearing deposits and not from others. Thai law? Sure it can be either very rigid or rather loose. But there are accounts, based on my experience, that seem to slide on through. What else can I say? I'm retired by the way.

Posted by Kaen Phet on September 20, 2013 14:43

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@Sailor:
I've had an account with Kasikorn for 17 years and have never paid tax on interest.
Maybe because I'm retired.

Posted by Pete on September 20, 2013 16:33

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Thanks for some helpful answers folks. I inquired at various banks today and got some direct answers. All bank accounts pay the required with-holding tax at 15%. Now with regards to the bank accounts we use for retirement visa purposes keeping the 800,000.00Baht is good. Do not save much above that and your tax is much lower, because you earn less interest. Do not save over 1 million Baht, because then you will be hit for bigger amounts.Now I will report back after applying for my visa renewal and Permit to Stay next week. Any hassles I will report back, hang I'll report back anyway.

Posted by DuncanB on September 20, 2013 20:48

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ED - Why have you let a new article be hi-jacked about finances?
Surely you VET these and for some reason you then posted them.
I thought this was a NEWS page - not an Open Forum like ThaiVisa

Totally weird. If you want to allow posting of a bank/interest write a story about it. This is so way off topic, maybe I should post about flowers.

Posted by Tbs on September 21, 2013 09:46

Editor Comment:

It's called serendipity, tbs. One thing leads to another. Perhaps other expats have a different outlook? If harsher editing was needed, to keep people on the topic, wouldn't some of your comments be the first to suffer?

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I tracked away from the initial topic, re finances.Retirement visa, Multiple Re-Entry Permit and Permit to stay received from Phuket Immigration. They are not stupid folk and they can see when a bank accounts withdrawals have been done by the bank and not the holder of the account. I was advised there, that just open a normal savings account, put in 1 million Baht and leave there for the year until next Renewals of stamps. QED. Nothing fancy that will tie them up in confusion. They want the process to be a simple one. If you can afford to be here, it is a simple process. No animals nor humans were hurt in the process and no tea bushes were plucked. Thanks Ed for letting me report back.

Posted by DuncanB on September 30, 2013 21:25


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