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Long Horn Saloon Killing: Three Musicians Confess to Murdering American, Granted Bail

Thursday, August 1, 2013
PHUKET: Three men accused of murdering an American in the 'Hotel California' killing at a Thai tourist holiday town have been granted bail and allowed to walk free, local police said today.

Texan Bobby Ray Carter Jr, 51, was stabbed with a sharpened iron bar in a fight outside the Long Horn Saloon in Ao Nang, Krabi, early yesterday.

Three musicians, who were playing at the bar before a dispute broke out with the American and his son, Adam, 27, have confessed and have been charged with murder, the Commander of Krabi Provincial Police, Major General Nandhadet Yoinon, said today.

''The men have taken part in a reenactment and so we have granted them bail,'' he said. ''We have no problem with this.

''The men have not tried to run away. There has been no attempt to escape.''

Officers from Krabi had been sent to the nearby province of Phuket, the superintendent said, where they planned to interview Adam Carter.

The younger Carter was also stabbed with a sharpened metal rod, the preferred local weapon.

Phuketwan reporters saw Mr Carter in a wheelchair at Bangkok Phuket Hospital in Phuket City today. He was with a woman and another man.

The man, who declined to give his name, said that Mr Carter and his friends did not wish to talk and that any information would come through a lawyer and group spokeswoman in Krabi.

According to the Superintendent of the local police, Colonel Taskin Phonchakarn, the dispute began inside the Long Horn Saloon as the band was finishing its performance.

''The leader told the audience at midnight that the next song would be the last song,'' the superintendent said today.

''A Thai customer asked for a song and the band played that song. Then the Americans asked for one more song, 'Hotel California,''' the superintendent said.

''One of them pulled out some dollars and said 'This is for Hotel California.' But the band had finished its set for the night.

''They put down their instruments and left the bar.''

Words were exchanged inside the bar as the musicians left, the superintendent said.

''When the American group of three men and two women went outside, they found the musicians sitting not far away, just relaxing.

''The American, Adam, said something like 'What the f - - -' then threw a punch at one of the musicians,'' the superintendent said.

The case will be taken to court tomorrow, with the prosecutor interviewing witnesses before the Americans fly home.

It is believed that the drummer, Ratikorn ''T'' Ramin, 27, wielded the sharpened rod in the fight that followed.

Sathit Somsa, 40, and Noppanan Yoddecha, 26, have also been charged with murder.

Last year, British tourists Jack Cole and April Clifton were attacked by a gang on motorcycles as they walked back towards their resort in Ao Nang.

Miss Clifton was able to run to safety but Mr Cole was stabbed several times. He survived the attack but needed treatment for wounds to his face, chest, arms and legs.

A young German woman had a thumb cut off in another attack in Krabi Town. The thumb was later reattached in surgery on Phuket.

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Granted Bail after confessing to murder?

It seems Krabi (and Thailand) authorities did not learn anything from their former mistakes!

Did they forget the movie clip "Evil Man in Thailand' already?

Posted by Mr. K on August 1, 2013 16:49

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This is It ! How much is a bail please ?? 5000 Bath ??? Probably not or any trial for this Case let see! certainly classified as self defense ! and he was just a bad dream ! No matter whats the US guy did ! this is not justify to Kill Somebody! R-I-P

Posted by raider on August 1, 2013 16:57

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" we have granted them bail,'' he said. ''We have no problem with this. "

Oh I bet you don't but you can be sure any justice minded person will !

Once again the statements of Thai police all across the media are not only littered with excuses and justifications for this cowardly act but full of character speculations about the victims.

Police is supposed to investigate without bias but when a foreigner becomes the victim of a Thai, this is what you get in Thailand.

Posted by ThaiMike on August 1, 2013 17:54

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Dont shoot at the Thai justice, or do all of you already forgot the zimmerman case in Florida, today already forgotten ?

Posted by Eric on August 1, 2013 19:29

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''The men have taken part in a reenactment and so we have granted them bail,'' he said. ''We have no problem with this.

I have to say, when i read this i was stunned. Can it really be as simple as engaging in a reenactment to get bail after being charged with murder ?
And then this ...''The men have not tried to run away. There has been no attempt to escape.' Well theres apparently no hurry, Its only early in the process .

Posted by Carvets on August 1, 2013 20:32

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I am not sure, they confessed the charge of murder. How could they get out on bail, as the penalty for this crime is definitely not probationable in Thailand. The here reported side - their story - seems like confessing to a manslaughter or even killing in self defense. And police seeing a probability to it, so they grant bail.

Posted by Lena on August 1, 2013 22:19

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You guys need to come up with a better story. It is very unlikely for an American just to throw a punch on someone. Making the Amercans look like they are that stupid will hurt you all's case and your Tourism business. This is how you treat your Tourists?

Posted by thaimamaintexas on August 2, 2013 01:04

Editor Comment:

In this case, the police have given their version of events. As journalists, all we can do is report what others tell us. On two occasions, we have asked the American group for their version of events, so that it's on the record. The American group has chosen not to talk to us. We think that's a mistake. Regular readers will tell you our only interest is in the safety of tourists and residents.

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Fascinating. Apparently it may have been a misunderstanding.

Posted by fw on August 2, 2013 06:23

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Same judge as set free the Soi Sansabai shooters?

Posted by mike on August 2, 2013 07:49

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Different judge, different province. Expats charged with murder have also been granted bail, As long as justice is delivered in court . . .

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Eric, might just as well add that George Zimmerman was charged only more than a month after he killed Travor Martin, the unarmed teenager he was stalking. He, too, was released on bail.

Posted by J on August 2, 2013 09:16

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"..they found the musicians sitting not far away, just relaxing" with their sharpened iron bar...

Posted by watson on August 2, 2013 09:53

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How the fight started is certainly an issue. So is someone carrying a weapon.
Your opinion on what happened is probably not as a participant or as a witness, and therefore of no value.

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Glad im not a music critic reviewing bands in Thailand for a newspaper column.

Posted by slickmelb on August 3, 2013 00:24


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